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Biz Shiz with Shani Timms
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Biz Shiz with Shani Timms
Dr Ezzie Spencer on Uncovering Your Money Splinters + Busting Through Your Wealth Glass Ceiling
On this week's episode, I welcome the beautiful and MEGA tallented Dr. Ezzie Spencer, the episode explores her transformative process of the Money Splinter Method, focusing on how unseen mental blockages can inhibit financial success. Ezzie shares her journey and the importance of addressing power, love, and peace channels to achieve abundant living.
We dive in to:
• Introduction of Ezzie's unique background, her spiritual awakening and transformation into coaching
• Explanation of the Money Splinter Method and how it works
• Deep dive into the three key energetic channels where money splinters are found: Power, Love, and Peace
• Insights on overcoming fears tied to the Power Channel
• Exploration of the Love Channel and shifting from chasing energy
• Dr Ezzie's advice for embracing authenticity and ease in business
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You're listening to BizShivs the space for soul-led women to get out of their heads and into the heart of their businesses. This podcast is for those who are ready to up-level their confidence, learn some epic business skills and embody what it means to run a soul-led business. In these episodes we dive into the woo-woo, aka the spiritual side of business and the to-do, the strategy, plus a whole lot of the lulu in there too. I'm your host, sharni, and let's get this BizShiz show on the road. Dr Ezzie Spencer, welcome to the BizShiz podcast.
Speaker 2:It is so fun to be here.
Speaker 1:It is so fun to have you here. I feel like you're just such a vibe of a human. I've never actually met you in person, but I'm like you know. There's people where I'm like I just know you. I'm like I just I just know you and I vibe with you. You probably get that a lot, do you?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think that when there's a resonance, it's just sparkly excitement, energy. I saw you pop up on my Instagram and I was like oh my gosh, I want to talk with her.
Speaker 1:Well, I felt the same with you and it was so funny, like I feel like your magic just ripples into people's worlds. But it was like you started following me and then it was like I just started seeing your name pop up everywhere. And one of my beautiful friends, holly, has a party. She mentioned that she had a session with you and then I was like I just need to get Etsy on the podcast, like it's a it's a done deal. But yeah, that's the way the world and the universe works Right, just like just planting little seeds for us to follow. So I'm so excited to chat to you.
Speaker 1:I think I discovered your work about three or four years ago. So I was actually um organizing a podcast for Prue Chapman so she's an amazing business coach in Byron and uh, and you came into my field and I was like I know, I have to get you on her podcast. So at that stage you're doing RE Love and you were doing the Lunar Abundance practice, and then I just feel like your whole journey has changed so much since then. So I'm really excited to kind of get up to speed about where you're at now.
Speaker 2:Totally I'm excited to share, but also I'm excited about that little kernel of information, cause that's the part of the story that I didn't know, I remember doing the podcast with Rue.
Speaker 1:So I was behind the scenes, organizing, organizing things. But yeah, talk to us like, how, like I know you're doing the money splinter method now, which is really I would love to focus on that today, Cause I just like that just gives me tingles all over. How did you like, how did this happen? You know, how did you go from lunar and loving to like money and creating this amazing method?
Speaker 2:Oh, my gosh. Well, I love that we have a minute Cause then I can tell you the real story where it began.
Speaker 1:We've got a hot minute and more.
Speaker 2:A hot minute. Okay, great, because I think my career is actually so feminine in the sense that it just spirals and weaves, and that's the truth of it. You know you can do the, and then I was doing this, and then you know this happened. But truly, what happened was when I was working in my original career, which is one that you didn't mention, which is that I used to be a human rights lawyer that's what I trained in and I was working in the area of domestic violence. I was doing my PhD in therapeutic jurisprudence, which is all about the law as healing for women who had been in abusive relationships. So it was such a different career path and when I was doing the PhD, I realized actually I was less interested in the law. I was more interested in the healing aspect, which was a little inconvenient because I'd already invested 10 years in a self-funded legal education and career Correct, and I was about a year into my PhD at that point, so I still had a
Speaker 2:ways to go and I thought, oh like, important, inconvenient, but let's keep going with the legal bit, because I'm here now. Right, I had a dream that I wanted to be a mental health law professor. Anyway, long story short, 15th of March 2011, I had a spiritual awakening which meant that very, very quickly, I was blasted open all of my circuits and, you know, it just became so obvious to me that I was meant to be doing something which is more in line with what it is that I do now, which is more spiritual, it's more energetic, you know. And so what happened at that stage, in back, all the way back in 2011, I just cut a long story short. You know, I had basically seen a burglary, a home invasion that was going to happen in my home where I lived on my own in Sydney, australia. You know, when I was doing my PhD, I'd seen what was going to happen the next day, saw three men in a vision entering my apartment, and I was physically fine the next day because I changed my movements. But those three men did come into my apartment, they were caught on CCTV and they ended up going back in jail.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't just the fact that I could see the future, which was a bit of a superpower, right, like it was cool, I was like helpful, great, it's amazing, a bit disconcerting, but obviously you know, like I was totally fine as a result of that. But I could also see other things too. So from that day forward, I could see things in people and effectively I could see soul wounds or what looked to me like splinters. So I could see things in people and effectively I could see soul wounds or what looked to me like splinters. So I see energetic channels and people. I could see where they've been splintered by life on a really deep level.
Speaker 1:So can I just ask you, did you have any like? Were you like, dipped a toe in the spiritual world before this? Like, was this just like, smacked you in the face.
Speaker 2:I love it Because you know I was probably a mystical child. You know I had a freakish skill in any divination. Put runes astrology iting in front of me as a small person and I was able to intuit with wild accuracy.
Speaker 2:So that was there as a kid. Then, when I went to law school at 19 or whatever, I really had the other side of my brain come online, which is rigorous, analytical thought, the underlying spiritual dimension though. I had a meditation practice. I followed the moon cycle when I was working in the law because I needed to find a way to come into connection with my own feminine rhythms. That was something that wasn't like trendy or cool, but back in 2007, when I was working as a lawyer, I started to track the moon cycle anyway. So I think, on an unconscious level, I was thirsting for something else, and so I had a daily practice, a spiritual daily practice, for about 10 years before this awakening. So the long story is it was probably brewing, but then the actual day was very dramatic and seemed to me like a bolt from the blue.
Speaker 1:And it probably was, you know like just to have that huge realization. That's amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so you know, in terms of then answering your question like where to from there, you know, it was incredibly. It was incredibly disorienting for me at the time. I mean, I'm talking about it now as if it was this magical power activated how cool. But at the time I really struggled with it because I didn't want to be seen as weird. I was still very much immersed in a mainstream profession, very intellectual profession, and I mean, my intuition was correct. When I shared with people who were my peers, my colleagues, my friends in that world, they did think that I was weird, like I wasn't making it up.
Speaker 2:This was 2011. It was a different time, and so the turning point for me came when I went to Berlin a few months later, in July of 2011, to a mental health law conference as part of my PhD, and by day I was going to the conference and then by night I was going to this meditation studio which was next door to my hotel in Berlin, and for the very first time, I was encountering people who had no other frame of reference for me. They didn't know me as, like Ezzie the air quotes lawyer. They knew me as someone who was just giving them freakishly accurate readings because I could see what was going on for them. I couldn't turn it off the vision at that stage this is still a few months after the awakening, so I could just see things in people and I also didn't know at that stage how to take what I now call splinters out. But I was able to tell people what's on the other side of this, like what's the evolutionary potential right? Like what's the purpose, what's the deeper meaning as to why you have experienced this deeper soul wound, and you know what's awaiting you as part of your bright future.
Speaker 2:So that started in 2011. Of course, the Berliners at the meditation studio were like, well, this is what you do for your job in Australia, right? And I just burst out laughing. I was like, well, this is what you do for your job in Australia, right? And I just burst out laughing. I was like, oh, no, no, no, this is something that just accidentally started to happen a few months ago. I'm here in Berlin for a law conference because I'm going to be a law professor, you know.
Speaker 2:And they also laughed at me and just said that's really cute. Like this is the most fridge, accurate reading I've ever had in my entire life. You really see me. And so the thing that ashamed about it was something I was keeping a bit secret and a bit hidden in my real air quotes profession was the thing that they found the most magical about me. And so, with that permission slip in July 2011, I came back from Berlin, back to Australia, and I started my first website and I started to do sessions and readings, and then that turned into a blog, which turned into an ebook and then turned into my first, you know, digital course a $97 PDF, I think it was called Spencer Method Secrets back in March of 2013. You know, and one thing led to another thing and people just started to ask me well, how do I work with you? Where are the workshops? It was a particular moment in early 2013 where I had just started to share on social media before it was a thing, and so my business took off and by the time I finished my PhD and graduated towards the end of 2013, I had a global coaching company. So that was Lunar Abundance.
Speaker 2:And then Lunar Abundance turned into a bestselling book and that led me to move to New York and it was a bit of a magic carpet ride, but it always happened really organically. It happened very, you know, accidentally. It was like right place, right time. There was a certain kismet in it, but it was. I wasn't really understanding yet how to take the splinters out. It was more that I was supporting people to tap into their own intuition, into their body, into their flow, and Lunar Abundance gave me a language to share as much as I could share about what it was that I could see and what it was that my real soul gift was. And then, by 2017, the book came out in Australia. 2018, it came out in the US. It became bestseller. By 2019, I was working much more deeply in my client work to take the splinters out, and this was Relove. So Relove harked back to my original career as a human rights lawyer specifically.
Speaker 2:Specifically, I was supporting people to take out their love splinters through that process and what was initially taking me 12 weeks to support someone to take out a love splinter back in the beginning of 2019, as I was doing re-love over time, you know, as I was taking so many people through the re-love experience and people were finding self-love and then having fun dating and then coming into healthy relationships and getting engaged and getting married and having babies, and I was like, oh my gosh, this is such a transformative thing that I'm doing with people, but also I got it down from like 12 weeks to 12 hours to then like what it is that I do now with someone, which is about 90 minutes, you know, I guess a point at which I've been running ReLove for about four or five years.
Speaker 2:And I noticed a Google alert ping on my phone one day and I picked up. I was like oh, that's really interesting. And I and I was like, wait, the British tabloids, like my name was tracking you, the British tabloids, and I never experienced anything like this.
Speaker 2:So I had this pit of dread in my stomach as I go to open up the Daily Mail UK, like what would they have written about me I'm not a celebrity, like what's going on and they'd written a very favorable article, thankfully, about me, but know pictures of me and my partner. And I'd written an article for Goop. So, like when Paltrow was there in the article, like they made it look like Photoshop, like we were all hanging out together, which was like such a surreal experience. But the way that they had portrayed me in the article, which was favorable, was like as a dating app guru, right, and I was like it was a real moment for me, shani, because I realized like, yes, awesome, like I can help women, I can help anyone actually use the dating apps. I can help anyone go through this process of establishing, you know, like a fun, a fun dating profile, you know, and go through that thing.
Speaker 2:But I was like what am I really here to do? Like what's my core mission? And my core mission is all about contributing to the expansion and evolution of human consciousness. And it wasn't just that one article in the Daily Mail, it got syndicated internationally. So then my phone was like bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. It was like as he spent the dating app guru, as he spent the dating app guru, and I was like it was just this feeling of being like great, I'm so glad that my work's getting out there, but also, this is not really how I want to be known in the world, because this isn't my real deep work. The splinter work is just so incredibly transformational for people and it's not about creating a dating app profile.
Speaker 2:So that was a real moment for me, where I decided to take a pause and to consider how can I make sure I'm in conversation with the world and conversation with life in a way that really does support what my core mission is, and so and so I really threw the doors open in 2023. I was living in LA with my partner at the time and I threw the door. I can do these splinter removals Like. This is actually my core method, which is at the heart of everything. This is what awakened in me 13 years ago, like the ability to see it. Now I can take the splinters out in people, so I am going to do this for anyone, for anything, like you know creativity, self-expression, purpose, love, of course, but also money and abundance.
Speaker 2:And what I found very quickly working in LA in 2023 is that the area where I had the fastest results and where I can feel like physically, feel like consciousness accelerating for myself and for my clients was when I was supporting really successful entrepreneurs to unlock the next level of income and money and impact, like that's just what. Just there was just this incredible cosmic fit with what it is I'd created and with that particular clientele, and so that's why I started to specialize in that in 2024. And so that brings us to the present moment.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm dying to know and I know the listeners will too like what is your human design? I've been like, trying to be like oh, what is it? What is it?
Speaker 2:That's so funny. I mean, I have to say I don't really get into human design, but I think I'm a generator, I'm the one that sort of builds the things. Yes, and do you know your numbers? So I think it might be that I'm a 4'6", 4'6", okay cool.
Speaker 1:Cool Is that? The numbers. Yeah, it could definitely be a 4'6", but it helps me be like, okay, that makes sense, that makes sense. But I think what I've loved most hearing about your story is just like you've picked up these golden breadcrumbs I know you called it the magic carpet all along the way and this really is like a feminine way of doing business, of not forcing things but allowing things, and really tapping into intuition and being like, oh, this is the next thing, this is the next thing, this is the next thing and it's led you on the most magical, magical journey that you possibly couldn't even try and create yourself, if you even try and imagine it. So what would be your recommendations or your tips for women in business who really want to tune into the very next step for them, like the next, like authentic step for them to lead them on their path, and of brilliance, literally what you've done?
Speaker 2:I think it just is so dependent on the season that someone is in. But I think you know what it is that you can't go past is to go within and listen to your own intuition and trust yourself, because what it is that we're seeing right now is that we've got such a busy, noisy, overcrowded marketplace, and so you know.
Speaker 2:I think that if you try to like pick the trends or try to figure out, like what's the hot conversation, right now you're going to find it very hard to break through, you know, and so, really, what it is that we need, I feel, is more people who are truly standing in their authentic essence and expressing themselves and their gifts in a way that's actually real. You know for them, and whenever I see someone who's original like, that's when I pause and notice.
Speaker 1:And you feel it, don't you? It's like when I see your work, it's like you're not trying to be anyone else, like you'll just be like hey, I'm here, I'm doing my thing. If you want in, like, come on board. Have you just found that's been like the most magnetic secret sauce for like the success of your brand Just being you?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's a great question. I think, yeah, being being original is something I never struggled with. You know, I don't know how to be anything other than myself, and I've always was myself right out of the gate and it worked. I think I was really lucky because I started in a moment where I didn't have any templates or role models. I just opened my mouth and started speaking role models. I just opened my mouth and started speaking. And so, at the time when I started there wasn't a lot of competition.
Speaker 2:So I think that, yeah, my journey has been unique and what has been my secret sauce maybe part of it is that I've simply been myself. Maybe you're right, I think there's many, many, many other things behind the scenes, but I think when you are yourself, you're going to stand out, and right now attention is at you know it's such a premium at such a premium attention, and so of course, you want to stand out. You know, otherwise you're not going to be able to run a profitable business.
Speaker 1:No, a hundred percent, and it's like, as you said, it's such a I don't going to be able to run a profitable business. No, 100%. And it's like, as you said, it's such a I don't want to say saturated, but there's so many options out there for people and it's like finding that edge that is going to really magnetize in like your dream clients is just like so important. And also, I think, creating like you've created your own signature methods. Right, it's like nobody can duplicate a signature method. It's like this is your unique process, which is so epic. So can you talk us through the money splinter method and, like when you're sort of in a client session, like, what do you feel? What are the splinters? Can you kind of talk us through the whole process?
Speaker 2:Totally so. What I love is that it's such a visual method for me, and so when I'm working with a client, I can see three energetic channels. So I see the power channel that runs down the right-hand side, I see the love channel that runs down the middle and I see the peace channel that runs down the left-hand side, and so I can see things in people. However, I don't necessarily tell people what it is that I see, because someone needs to be really ready to shift it, because what it is I'm seeing is happening at such an unconscious and deep level for a lot of people. And so what really works so well is when people come into a session with me with a clear motivation, an intrinsic motivation. Like I'm not convincing or persuading anybody to make more money. Someone needs to come into the session with me with the hunger and with the desire to raise their income ceiling to the next level.
Speaker 2:You know and that's one of the things that I work with with entrepreneurs is simply revenue. So I work with. There's different areas that I work with, but obviously increasing monthly cashflow and revenue is going to be a really typical session that I would do with somebody, and so helping someone to see, well, how are you getting in your own way right now in terms of getting to that next level? But, most importantly, why are you getting in your own way? Because I think that one of the things that we see is so much judgment and blaming, and particularly if you're someone who's extremely successful and high functioning already which is my clientele it's going to be really quick for someone to start to whip themselves and think that there's something wrong with them or that they're doing something wrong, and there's so much language out there in the space that would reinforce that perception of self right, and so there's always a reason why you're putting the brakes on.
Speaker 2:There's always a reason why you're titrating the flow Right, and what will happen as I'm looking at this channel is that I can understand what is and then I can help them to shift it Right. And so, in terms of the different channels, it's going to have a different texture or flavor depending on where it is that we're working right. And so an example of the power channel. Say, if someone is blocked there, if they're standing in their own way in the power channel, meaning that they've got a splinter in the power channel, that's usually because there's an unconscious fear of what is going to happen when they go to the next level right.
Speaker 2:And that will make, I mean, like, pick your fear, like what might it be?
Speaker 2:And one of the things, particularly because I'm working with people who are already very, very successful, they already have a high level of visibility you know, they already have a taste and an understanding of the dark side of that, you know, because, of course, we all want to be visible and we all want to grow, we all want more money, but there's a reality of what then can come in at the backend to do with that. Now, that shouldn't necessarily be the inhibitor as to growing, you know, but that can be one of the reasons why you're standing in your own way, because you want to not just protect yourself but also protect the people who you love as we go into an uncertain future, you know. And so what it is I help people to understand is well, where is that fear really coming from? Sure, there's an objective reality. You know that there's just going to be more stuff like the world's a weird place.
Speaker 1:Marilyn.
Speaker 2:Monroe said you never actually understand the human condition until you taste fame. That's actually so yeah, that's good right, it's like you wouldn't even begin to imagine what happens at the back end.
Speaker 2:You know once you have this ability, right, you know and so. But really, what we also have is a capacity to be able to handle that. You, you know, and so I help people to understand what is the splinter. It's the way that life has entered them, either earlier in this lifetime, or it might even be something that they have inherited, right? So you may not even be affected by or making choices based on your own splinter.
Speaker 2:It might be something that you have taken down, your ancestral line, right. So how are you going to find it with your conscious mind? It's going to be so difficult to find that right when it's happening at that deeper energetic level, and so I help people to pull that out and come into a place of like yeah, of course, like yeah, like there's going to be growth, pains, but also I'm so well equipped to handle that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and can it be past life as well as he like, do you? Oh, he can, yeah, wild. And how many splinters does someone have like an average session? How many splinters would someone have?
Speaker 2:Right? So in a session I'm only ever taking out one splinter at a time because the process is a really like it's a very it's a very in-depth process of getting down to the root of what it is and then releasing it. So one splinter at a time. But I think the question is really interesting how many splinters does someone have? The real question is, how many splinters does someone have at a certain level, right? So I love the Winston Churchill quote, which is that the farther back you look into the past, the further into the future you can see.
Speaker 2:That's cool, yeah. And so, for example, like you're wanting to get to consistent 10 K months, right, like maybe you've got a few splinters there. But then you're like I want to raise that ceiling again, I want to get to consistent a hundred K months, okay, you might have more spl, more splinters there, you know. And then I have clients who are earning a lot more than that. You know, I've got clients who are earning a million dollars a month and you might say, gosh, how do they have splinters? It's because they want to scale beyond that. So they're going to meet more of themselves, more of their past, more of how some of these collective archetypal energies are playing out.
Speaker 1:So do you take someone to like the greatest goal that they want to achieve and then start from there with the splinter? Is that what you're saying? Like you don't say okay, what's like the next thing? It's like no, let's go, you know, 10 goals ahead and work from that place, cause that's where you're going to get, like the real splinters that are holding you back.
Speaker 2:Right, Well, great question. So it's really interesting because I can do either and so I can help people to get to, like, what's the next goal? Okay, just say you're making 10K a month and you really want to get to 50K a month. It might actually be more effective to just work with that, like just work with scaling from 10 to 50K, rather than setting the. Hey, I want to now set the million dollar a month revenue goal, right? Why is that? It's because if you're setting a million dollar revenue goal when you're at 10k, it might actually blow your circuits to try to go that far, firstly. Secondly, it might also be beyond what your mind can even access in terms of belief, right? So it may well be that someone can dream into okay, I can get to 50K a month. It feels scary, I'm going to have to meet my demons, so to speak, and I mean the demons, the next level Exactly.
Speaker 2:Like you're only ever going inside of yourself. There are no real monsters. You know that's not something. That's so like beautiful and like feminine and gentle about the practice, actually, you know, but it's like if it. If your mind cannot even get on board that a million dollars a month is possible to make as a female business owner, then we're just going to end up in the hypothetical inside of the session. It might not actually be effective.
Speaker 1:True. So you want to keep it at a stage that feels stretchy but also realistic and then work from kind of that place. Yeah, amazing. And do you find, like, when you work with women in business, how do they? Because like and this is obviously not gender biased, but I just know a lot of men they're like, yes, a hundred percent, like I know where I'm going, but I think do you find that women tend to play a little bit on the smaller side?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I just want to plant that and say um, I tend to work with women who are really knocking it out of the park, so the women that I work with. Don't play small. But I'll tell you one thing that's different between men and women in in my very small experience, I'm not saying this is like. This is how the gender is Exactly. I'd say this is from my client sample. I would say that women want more ease.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like they want to make more money. But let's be honest, we're tired, you know. We're stretched, we want the soft girl era. Exactly. Come on, just give us the flow you know, and so that tends to be what turns on my really successful female clients. They want to play bigger, but they want to keep the spaciousness on their calendar.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they want to be receiving, you know, they want to be in their feminine.
Speaker 1:Well, do you know what was interesting when you said the three channels, right like the piece was on the left hand side, which was the feminine, the power was on the right hand side, which is masculine. I know there's no, you know, coincidences there, but I thought that was quite interesting to sort of see that visually. Yeah, did. Was that intentional by you to have it like?
Speaker 2:it's just what I see. So it's really funny because people often say to me like, oh, they'll say they'll reflect something. I haven't heard someone say that specifically what you just said, which I love. But you know, someone will often say, oh wow, this is such a great like, what a great idea to do it that way, and I'm like it's not an idea. This is just what I started seeing 13 years ago. So I'm just like reporting back and it's just like it makes sense.
Speaker 1:You know it works. So when, like? Can you give us some really expansive examples of like women who have been able to tap into, like removing the splinters in their peace channel and what's that opened up for them, like in terms of business and life? I'd love to hear some really expansive examples yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think what's really interesting with the peace channel is that there's often a desire to to it's. It's really interesting. Actually, let me just tell you very briefly about the peace channel, because it'll make more sense when I do that. So the peace channel is often when someone is splintered in the peace channel, usually their business feels heavy, so the business is actually going really well, but there's like a sense of overgiving, you know, and there's a sense of over-responsibility.
Speaker 2:So oftentimes we see the peace channel come up when someone is in a very prominent leadership position, when someone's in a CEO position, because the tendency to take responsibility, to shoulder the load, is something that has got them to that place. You know, okay, but what it is that I help them to see and to unlock is that what got you here won't take you there, which of course, is that great book title by Marshall Goldsmith, which is that you know what is the thing that's going to unlock the next level of success. And so a lot of the time with the Peace Channel, it's about understanding well, how can I give less, take less air quotes responsibility. We're not talking about shirking responsibility, because no one that I'm, no one that I'm working with.
Speaker 2:I'm just not working with those clients. Right, it's just about how can I take the correct responsibility. But how can I give less without people receiving less? You know, because the people that I work with are like world changers. They're incredibly generous of spirit. You know they're so devoted to what it is that they do with their work because it's meaningful. You know they're working with people that they care about, and all of that is great. We want to retain that.
Speaker 2:But what it is that we want to do and this is to speak into your question specifically about the expansiveness of the Peace Channel is that we, of how they do not need to say, be fully present in front of the person, giving them the thing in order for the recipient to receive something. And so an example of that may be well, you might never meet the people as a coach who you're supporting and inspiring and changing their lives. You might never even know their name, you might never even know the impact that you have had upon them. Example digital products. You know, and yet you can still qualitatively shift their life or their work or in whatever way. Right, so you can give less, but without the other person receiving less. In fact, everybody's going to get more from that experience, because you can then take more people into your world.
Speaker 1:That's amazing and I would say a lot of like I know. For me specifically, it's like I want to have huge impact but I don't necessarily want to do a whole lot more work. So I think that would just be such an amazing, you know, outcome of working with you to be like, oh like I can still have the impact and I don't need to, you know, do a thousand one-on-one calls, you know, in a week just to have that. So that would be such a huge transformation. And what does it look like? The power channel? If someone's got a splinter in their power channel, can we talk through maybe that and love as well?
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally so. Power can often look like, or a sign that you have a splinter in the power channel. In addition to what I said before about you know feeling like, oh, I want to go to the next level, but I'm scared of what that might mean.
Speaker 2:It might look like you outsourcing your power to something external to you so attaching to something external to you, and so a narrative might be well, you know, I was really good at business, like when the market conditions were good, when there wasn't a cost of living crisis, like when the algorithm wasn't as stupid as it is today, or whatever you know. It's like you're outsourcing the reason for why you were successful in the past to something external to you, versus being like no, I was successful in the past because I was fully in my power, right, and so, yeah, coming into the reality of well, you know, life is change. Every life involves change. I should say One of the biggest risks to business has always been change.
Speaker 2:We always have to be on our toes to do with change as business owners, but also we have extraordinary capacity for that and we can actually use changing conditions to our advantage if we're willing to lead and simply willing to be ourselves just to reference back what we were saying before you know and willing to go into the unknown and willing to lead the way and do that first. Yeah, so not attaching to something external, not attaching to the way things need to be in order for you to be successful. Also, not attaching to oh okay, when I get this great client, you know, or when this person signs up, or when I get to work with that mentor or like whatever it might be, like not attaching to anything external to you but really being in the place of. But I could just do this right now. You know, I could just take the bit of my income right now.
Speaker 1:I think it's just like it's bringing back people to their own personal power and it's just like stripping back all the layers, the conditioning, the programming, just to be like this is who you are and like you've always been this way. We just had to remove the gunk, so cool.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:And what about the love? The love channel.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So what's really interesting with the love channel is that if you splintered in the love channel, it can look like being in chasing energy. Now that could be really obvious in the sense of you might be actually out there hustling, constantly, following up with clients or potential client leads who are not an aligned fit or whatever, like you can actually be in active hustle mode in terms of observable behavior or action. But another way that you can be in the chasing energy is like mentally, like constantly be thinking about okay, well, you know when this person signs up or when this happens, or you know when I get absolutely everything perfect with my funnel. You know like constantly be thinking in the future versus being really grounded in right here, right now and being in open and receptive mode.
Speaker 1:It kind of feels like you're in the head instead of the heart in business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. So that can be a sign that the love splinter is running. Now again, there's always a reason for that, you know, there's always a reason for that, and this is one of the beautiful things about the session Everything I hear inside of a session is like the same thing over and over and over again, which is like when I take someone through the process of finding the splinter, they go oh, I wasn't expecting that. I love that Surprise. Yeah, yeah, because everything I'm telling you like these are great, you know, these are great tips like get back out of your head into your heart. Like, yeah, of course, great.
Speaker 2:You know the real question is but why aren't you in your heart?
Speaker 1:right now.
Speaker 2:Like why are you in chasing pursuit mode? Aren't you in the trust and flow of life and receiving? You know what's really blocking the flow? And again it's going to be the splinter, like something that's foreign to you, that has impacted the flow in that channel. That is, in turn, shaping the view that you have of the world and what you think is possible for you.
Speaker 1:That is amazing. The fact that you have like created this own process is just like mind blowing, and I know that you would be helping like so many entrepreneurs just like have a much more easeful and successful life in business, which I freaking love. I know everyone's probably like how the F do we get a session with Esi? Can you tell us because I know you've got like the masterclass. You've got obviously like your private containers as well Can you talk us through how people can get in your world and learn more about money splinters?
Speaker 2:Yes, A great way to start is with the quiz, so it will tell you as you're speaking. I'm sure you're like I've got a power splinter, I've got a peace splinter.
Speaker 1:I've done the quiz. I think it was peace. I've got splinters in, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I think that when, yeah, it's very, very common actually for really successful entrepreneurs to be splintered in the Peace Channel, because it can be quite difficult to access some of that deeper imprinting. So the quiz will tell you. So, where's my money splinter? Ezyspencercom, you can go over and you can do the quiz and it will tell you is your main money splinter in the Power channel, the love channel, the peace channel? And then it comes with a two minute meditation which will support you with the you know, the healing process and a little bit more of the insights is to what might that be all about and how can you address it. So the quiz is a great place to start. And then there's the masterclass, which is the deep dive into. Well, you know where did the splinter come from and also some of the bigger frameworks around it, right? So we take the splinter out, but then what? And so this is where, in the masterclass, I go into the golden elevator framework, which is where.
Speaker 2:I help people to turn their current income ceiling into their new income floor, but then also working inside of other areas of money as well. So revenue and cashflow is just one of them. So the master class goes through some of the frameworks as well as the deeper dive into like where did the splinter come from and why it is there? And then you know on the on the one-on-one side, there's the container. So I work with people. I start off as a one month intensive, so that includes three sessions, because often people have multiple splinters, and then it has the support in between.
Speaker 2:So when you're doing this really like deep, unconscious work, which is like removing the blocks, removing the barriers, it's oftentimes amazing what can like then start to run through. Oftentimes amazing, what can like then start to run through. Like when you open the flow, you're like, oh, hang on a sec. Like actually, like you know, it's like the tap turns on and you're like, oh my gosh, I can see that this program or this offering or this product is actually me playing small you know or me doing what I thought I had to do in order to, like you know, make a buck in whatever the current you know economic climate is.
Speaker 2:Now I can see that this is my true calling. Oh my gosh, I need to move fast. So that's why I've got the. Telegram channel and we go back and forth, and back and forth, and back and forth and it's like quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. Like you know, clutch time and warp speed to get someone into a place where they're able to make the changes, and the execution occurs between then and the next session, which is more energetic in nature.
Speaker 1:I love it. And do you find that it's an easeful integration of working with you? Know how sometimes you can work with coaches and whatnot, and then it's just like you feel like you've been smacked in the face with you know hectic integration. What do you find like?
Speaker 2:the integration after working with you is like yeah, so it really depends on where someone is up to in their business.
Speaker 2:Right so and this is really where I'm working with people who are established, successful entrepreneurs. So we're working at the level of like, tweak and refinement, like at the time that someone is coming to me and they've already. So everyone that I work with has at least a six figure business, right? So by the time someone is coming to me and working inside of the container. So this is the one-on-one work, like the, you know, do the quiz, do the two-minute meditation. That's just going to be sweet, regardless of where you are on your path in entrepreneurship, right, you know. But in terms of like the real deep, one-on-one work where we go through the actual process of taking the splinter out, it's usually like the actual experience itself is micro. Like we make a micro tweak, so the integration feels like super light, super easy. The integration almost like happens inside of the session, you know. And then I give people little bits of homework for like the next couple of days, like it's not heavy duty, like crossing thing.
Speaker 2:However, if what it is that you find is I'm like completely in the wrong niche or like I'm just like not doing what I'm supposed to do, like you know, obviously, like you're going to have to do some heavy duty lifting after that. Now, is that still going to be the right thing for you to do? Yeah, sure, you know, but if you're very early in business, it may well be. You know that there's um, you know I mean. I mean at any stage. I mean anyone's welcome to work with me, you know. But be prepared for the fact that the shifts and changes that you may need to make before you're established could be tectonic. But when I'm working with someone who's actually really already on their path and might have just like strayed off a little bit into the bushes but just needs like a little bit of like a bump back to take the fastest and most simple, clear route to where it is that they want to go in terms of income and impact, it's just going to be a micro, you know, tweak and adjustment.
Speaker 1:I love it and I think the thing is you're bringing them more into authentic alignment. So it might be tectonic shifts, but it's going to feel a hell of a lot better when you get into that alignment. So you are on my vision board of people I need to work with and I'm just like it is a happening thing. So I have just absolutely loved today's chat. Ezzie, you are a ray of sunshine and, yeah, as you could probably see, I was like so close to the screen, like nodding the whole time, just obsessed with everything you're saying. But, yeah, thank you so much for coming on. I know all the listeners will just be, yeah, lapping up your work and following you on Instagram and doing the masterclass and all the things.
Speaker 2:Amazing. It's been such a joy to speak with you.
Speaker 1:All right. Thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll see you on the next episode.
